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Pulse VEAST


#1

I was reading a couple other threads Chris recently pointed to (one was the V-Diet 3.5 thread) but I’ve also been reading more about the Pulse Feast method. Chris, I’m wondering what your thoughts are on doing a five day Pulse “Veast” where you take in two-to-three pulses in keeping with the Pulse Feast method, but instead of a typical “Feast” at night, you have one large V-Diet shake…

Personally, I love the idea of the pulse feast, but I’m not really sure I trust myself enough to “feast”

anyway, do you have any thoughts on the merits of this? Worth trying, or waste of time?


#2

Definitely worth trying. In fact, the wifey and I have both done it. It falls between a Pulse Fast and a Pulse Feast. For those that find that Fast to be too much or too long for them, or for those like yourself who don’t quite trust themselves with a Feast, it’s perfect.


#3

[quote]Chris Shugart wrote:
Definitely worth trying. In fact, the wifey and I have both done it. It falls between a Pulse Fast and a Pulse Feast. For those that find that Fast to be too much or too long for them, or for those like yourself who don’t quite trust themselves with a Feast, it’s perfect.

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Hey guys. Just noticed this discussion and thought I’d pop in for just a sec. You know, my wife and I also modified the Pulse Fast to incorporate something very similar. We have 4-8 eggs (2-4 are whole eggs) to get through the very tough evening hours of the “fast”. I do this twice in the evening and it makes the entire process 100% easier - without jacking insulin or even eating truly solid food.


#4

[quote]Lonnie Lowery, PhD wrote:

Hey guys. Just noticed this discussion and thought I’d pop in for just a sec. You know, my wife and I also modified the Pulse Fast to incorporate something very similar. We have 4-8 eggs (2-4 are whole eggs) to get through the very tough evening hours of the “fast”. I do this twice in the evening and it makes the entire process 100% easier - without jacking insulin or even eating truly solid food.

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Very cool.

Eggs are a good choice too, from a satiety standpoint. It just seems like it’s hard to overeat plain eggs. Maybe that’s a sensory specific satiety thing.


#5

A couple of times I nearly went off the rails during one of those “tough evening hours” on a pulse fast day and reigned myself in with nothing but a couple (5oz. total between the 2) turkey cutlets. It’s so funny (not really humorous though) how my mind starts rationalizing the stupidest shit when I get super hungry like that.

"Well, you know, Mark… Thib does those pulse feasts, you could totally eat a bunch and not undo your fast day. Just have some peanut butter or some dark chocolate or … " and it all starts spiraling from there. So I got to the point where I eventually said, look, rather than just lose it totally, eat something whole and good protein, slowly, and go from there. Usually about halfway through I regain my sanity and head to bed.

What got me thinking about this is how I could do a pulse feast blitz without the “feast” factor (which I know I would lose at this stage) but keep the super structure that helps keep me disciplined enough not to deviate from my course. Rather than pulse feast for a week, I was thinking I could pulse every day for 5 days, but have one of the big, nutrient dense shakes at night in place of a “blank slate” feast where I already know in my deranged, fasted evening state I would make the worst choices possible to make up my feast.

Definitely even more eager to try it now. I’ll let everyone know how it goes.


#6

Okay, starting tomorrow it’s VEAST WEEK. I’ll start a log thread, but in the meantime I’m interested in tips for my evening shake. I’m planning to go with a 3 scooper (maybe 4 if I’m feeling absolutely famished, but otherwise, 3). I’m skipping the peanut butter and flax seed in favor of 4 FA3s with my Flameout (which I’ll do 3 in the morning with my Power Drive, Alpha Male and pre workout BCAAs + 1/2 scoop 0 carb Isopure Whey Isolate on applicable days plus 3 more at night)

Anyway, my query here is, normally the “evening shake” on the V-Diet calls for Leucine, but I’m thinking it will be okay to skip that as I’ll be pulsing anyway. Do I need the Leucine in that evening shake? I’m planning to put a bunch of Superfood in with the Feast Shake, too.

So, it’ll basically be 3 scoops Metabolic Drive Low Carb, Superfood, Water, Ice. Also toying with the idea of throwing an egg in there, or maybe a 1/2 cup of Almond Milk just to make it extra rich and sufficiently “feasty” – thoughts on that?

I realize there are no wrong answers on this one, since it’s (I’m surmising) a relatively new experiment, but I’m interested in feedback nonetheless. My goals are rapid fat loss/body recomposition, and to keep that sustained “fasted buzz” thing I feel on pulse days, but with the evening feast shakes to keep me from crashing too hard.


#7

[quote]VTRushinCA wrote:
Okay, starting tomorrow it’s VEAST WEEK. I’ll start a log thread, but in the meantime I’m interested in tips for my evening shake. I’m planning to go with a 3 scooper (maybe 4 if I’m feeling absolutely famished, but otherwise, 3). I’m skipping the peanut butter and flax seed in favor of 4 FA3s with my Flameout (which I’ll do 3 in the morning with my Power Drive, Alpha Male and pre workout BCAAs + 1/2 scoop 0 carb Isopure Whey Isolate on applicable days plus 3 more at night)

Anyway, my query here is, normally the “evening shake” on the V-Diet calls for Leucine, but I’m thinking it will be okay to skip that as I’ll be pulsing anyway. Do I need the Leucine in that evening shake? I’m planning to put a bunch of Superfood in with the Feast Shake, too.

So, it’ll basically be 3 scoops Metabolic Drive Low Carb, Superfood, Water, Ice. Also toying with the idea of throwing an egg in there, or maybe a 1/2 cup of Almond Milk just to make it extra rich and sufficiently “feasty” – thoughts on that?

I realize there are no wrong answers on this one, since it’s (I’m surmising) a relatively new experiment, but I’m interested in feedback nonetheless. My goals are rapid fat loss/body recomposition, and to keep that sustained “fasted buzz” thing I feel on pulse days, but with the evening feast shakes to keep me from crashing too hard.

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No egg. The body doesn’t utilize all of the protein from raw eggs anyway, so it’s a waste.

2 scoops would be fine, but 3 is too if you need it.

Skipping leucine is fine, but leucine is never a bad idea with any physique goal, and it’s perfect to add to a big meal.

Almond milk is fine, unsweetened of course. I find that Metabolic Drive doesn’t need anything though to make it rich and creamy. Water is all that’s needed in my book. I could just never tell the difference between water vs. skim milk, Calorie Countdown, almond etc. With MD, it’s always thick and good.


#8

Yeah, I think i’ll toss out the Almond milk and just go with water and a ton of ice. They go down better that way anyway (and more filling).

If I go with the three scoops, that puts me at only about 125g of protein for the day. For a week… I’m not sure I like that. I’d feel a lot more comfortable at around 150, so I either need to add in a scoop of whey isolate or MD or eat a can of tuna or something on top of it. Something to give me ~25g of protein but without any carbs.


#9

[quote]VTRushinCA wrote:
Yeah, I think i’ll toss out the Almond milk and just go with water and a ton of ice. They go down better that way anyway (and more filling).

If I go with the three scoops, that puts me at only about 125g of protein for the day. For a week… I’m not sure I like that. I’d feel a lot more comfortable at around 150, so I either need to add in a scoop of whey isolate or MD or eat a can of tuna or something on top of it. Something to give me ~25g of protein but without any carbs. [/quote]

I understand the concern, but I think whollups of amino acids/leucine override total protein count, at least for 5 days.

Either way, I’ll be interested in hearing your results!


#10

Okay, cool. That’s all I needed to hear, then. I’ll do a 3-scooper tonight with the Leucine/Superfood. It makes me feel better, too, because it keeps the experiment more “pure” in the realm of V-Diet/Pulse Fast/Feat world. No Almond milk, no tuna/turkey etc. Just a week of pulse fast following by “feast shake” … i can’t imagine it not yielding decent results, but I’m curious as to what the results will be.

Thanks for your help & input.


#11

Old post but I just found it and it saved my night. Currently doing a 2 week v-diet/pulse fast combo, pulse fast every Thursday and Sunday. I had a pulse tonight and was starving an hour later, found this post and made some egg whites and feel so much better. Thanks guys!