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Plazma Super Stack Questions


#1

In 2-3 weeks i finish V-Diet but because i live in Australia and have to buy in bulk and ship it to myself everything arrives in time i have to start planning the next step now. I want to give Plazma, Indigo and MAG-10 a try for the next step but the stack doesn’t make sense to me.
Couple questions:

MAG-10 - is in replacement for whey protein? or do i still need whey (Metabolic Drive)

The stack has a recommended training day diet at 3,300 calories

I’m 5"9 at 169 pounds (and i’ll probably be at 160 after V-Diet is over) isn’t this too many calories?

Can i keep using Superfood in morning at and night along with Flameout.

It also gave a recommended training day diet, Do i still use MAG-10, Indigo and Plazma on non-training days? If i don’t then what would my diet schedule look like?

I’m sorry this is such an epic question. But if i spend $1000 in one hit it needs to planned to perfection. Shipping to Oz costs an arm and a leg.

Thanks heaps


#2

The <a href="http://www.t-nation.com/store/packages/plazma-super-stack"target=“new”>Plazma Super Stack is a great deal, so good choice there.

<a href="http://www.t-nation.com/store/products/mag-10"target=“new”>MAG-10 is not really the same as “whey protein.” It can replace a plain protein drink however. Biotest science guy Bill Roberts discussed this recently. He wrote:

“The whey can now be skipped with no loss. Mag-10 is already providing di- and tri-peptides as fast as they can be absorbed; the whey protein itself cannot be absorbed except until after being broken down into di- and tri-peptides, and in a less favorable composition than the Mag-10. What happens when also having the whey, and then the meal, is that the protein intake is then large enough that it takes many hours to absorb it all. That’s okay, the added protein isn’t wasted (for the most part) as it will later be absorbed, but there’s no need for it at that time.”

To elaborate even more, the protein in Mag-10 is comprised of a new di- and tripeptide complex that’s transported (requiring no further breakdown) directly into the bloodstream. And the di-/tripeptide mixture found in Mag-10 produces effects in muscle that are above and beyond simple aminos from other proteins.

Peptide structures have biological activities beyond regular amino acids. Tim Patterson notes that only 20 grams of protein from Mag-10 stimulates protein synthesis to a far greater degree than what you’d get from 100s of grams of conventional protein.

As for the Reactive Pump diet plan, you can of course adjust it to fit your needs, and if you need specific guidance for that you can post questions to Coach Meadows here: <a href="http://tnation.t-nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_body_muscle_john_meadows?pageNo=1&s=forumsNavTop"target=“new”>John Meadows Forum

<a href="http://www.t-nation.com/store/products/flameout"target=“new”>Flameout and <a href="http://www.t-nation.com/store/products/superfood"target=“new”>Superfood are also good foundational supplements for any diet plan or goal, but remember to keep Superfood separated from your Indigo-3G dosage as it could interfere. A few hours apart is fine.

Most people do use <a href="http://www.t-nation.com/store/products/indigo-3g"target=“new”>Indigo-3G on non-training days to get the effect of nutrient repartitioning and repairing fat cell metabolism and nutrient uptake mechanisms. You do not take Plazma on non-workout days since Plazma is a dedicated workout drink. Mag-10 can still be used between meals on non-lifting days for the protein pulsing effect. The store page of Mag-10 gets into the details there.

The labels of each product can be viewed at the <a href="http://www.t-nation.com/store/"target=“new”>Biotest Store if you need to see the servings per container, etc.

Hope this helps.


#3

[quote]dsender wrote:
In 2-3 weeks i finish V-Diet but because i live in Australia and have to buy in bulk and ship it to myself everything arrives in time i have to start planning the next step now. I want to give Plazma, Indigo and MAG-10 a try for the next step but the stack doesn’t make sense to me.
Couple questions:

MAG-10 - is in replacement for whey protein? or do i still need whey (Metabolic Drive) [/quote]

You’ll still want to have a substantial total daily protein intake, per day at least a gram per pound of bodyweight. Results don’t depend on exact value. Using the MAG-10, if you happened to find a whey protein to be a convenient way to have your macronutrients work out for the day that would be fine. Or if you obtained it without whey protein, that also would be absolutely fine now.

So this would depend really on personal preference and the foods you want to eat.

[quote]The stack has a recommended training day diet at 3,300 calories

I’m 5"9 at 169 pounds (and i’ll probably be at 160 after V-Diet is over) isn’t this too many calories?[/quote]

Most likely not.

Yes, neither in any way interfere with the any of the parts of the stack.

I’ll defer to Chris on the diet schedule! :slight_smile:

Generally, I would save the Plazma for training days. MAG-10 can be used very effectively for pulses on non-training days. Indigo-3G is preferably used every day.

[quote]I’m sorry this is such an epic question. But if i spend $1000 in one hit it needs to planned to perfection. Shipping to Oz costs an arm and a leg.

Thanks heaps[/quote]

Not at all! There’s a tremendous amount to be said for planning!


#4

Cool Thanks guys. This Helped alot.