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Micro PA or Plazma/Mag-10?


#1

Which one is more effective? I have been using Indigo-3G with Plazma and MAG-10 for about 4 months. Would Micro-PA be more effective at stimulating muscle growth? I see several posts from folks using both. What is the benefit of both?
Thanks


#2

Can you give your results from using Plazma and Indigo-3G for the past 4 months? I’m using Plazma at the moment and I’m thinking about adding Indigo-3G and just ordered more Plazma and starting MAG-10.


#3

It’s difficult to compare those supplements because they work via very different mechanisms of action. The store page for each lists all the benefits and describes how each works. That said, if trying <a href="http://www.t-nation.com/store/products/micro-pa"target=“new”>Micro-PA means you have to stop using proper workout nutrition, we’d suggest staying with <a href="http://www.t-nation.com/store/products/plazma"target=“new”>Plazma and the other supplements. Workout nutrition is foundational, as is healthy nutrient partitioning (<a href="http://www.t-nation.com/store/products/indigo-3g"target=“new”>Indigo-3G).


#4

Alphaboy,
The biggest difference I have noticed with I3G is when I DON’T take it before a meal. There have been a few times where I was not able to take it before a significant meal and could really feel the difference the next couple of days. Kinda bloated and my bodyfat definitely went up a tic. I have not missed taking it before workout supplementation so no data there. I used Metabolic Drive and Surge Recovery before switching to the latest and greatest of Plazma and MAG-10.

I was working out fasted so Plazma is a huge benefit compared to nothing. I still use Metabolic Drive as a meal replacement sometimes. I really liked Surge Recovery but like the instant protein effect idea of MAG-10. I can’t really tell you much about MAG-10 vs. Surge Recovery because both seemed effective. Maybe if I stopped using MAG-10 for a while I could see a difference but I’m not willing to perform that experiment on purpose.

I get the bundle pack of Plazma, MAG-10 and I3G which helps on the wallet a bit. My suggestion would be to try a bottle or two of I3G and see how it works for you. You may have to play with the dosage a bit to find your sweet spot but stay within the label directions!
Hope this helped.


#5

Chris,
I have also been trying to get to below 10% body fat but have been at a plateaud at about 14-15% for several months. Would Micro PA really help with that? The info on it says 60% increase in fat loss. I looked at HOT-ROX but it has caffeine and I have been off caffeine for about 7 years.

I would rather not take anything with significant caffeine but don’t know how much is in it. I wouldn’t completely rule it out if its not a ton of caffeine. FyI, I’m using Indigo 3G already so I don’t know if HOT-ROX would even be compatible
Thanks.


#6

Micro-PA definitely has fat loss affects, though it’s not a “fat burner” in the traditional sense. No stimulants etc.

It’s fine to use Hot-Rox with Indigo-3G, but Hot-Rox does indeed contain caffeine and yohimbine. If you’re not used to stimulants, this combo is pretty potent. Another option for you might be to use <a href="http://www.t-nation.com/store/products/carbolin-19"target=“new”>Carbolin 19 (one part of Hot-Rox). Good info on it here: http://www.t-nation.com/supplements/burn-fat-pile-on-muscle-with-forskolin


#7

Thanks Chris.
I’m glad to know there is a decaffeinated option for fat burning.
Sounds (to me…the noobie) like Carbolin 19 and Micro-PA generate much of the same results. So now for the question that you probably hate: which would you recommend for a 48 year old guy who lifts 2 or three days a week and does an aerobic boot camp type workout 3 of the other days a week with the (lofty) goal of going from 133 pounds to 150 in 17 months while dropping body fat from 15% to below 10%?


#8

Micro-PA would be the best choice for your goals.

Keep us posted!