[quote]Doc J wrote:
I have been zero carb keto for well over a year. It’s funny how most studies only look at a month at most and ignore the fact that it may take many months to fully adapt. I feel absolutely powerful with endless energy, excellent workouts and no problems building muscle. The only problem is at times you have force your self to eat enough calories due to the hunger quenching properties of this way of eating. I don’t think I’d eat 100g of carbs in a year. [/quote]
Alanrlow I’d like to hear more about your experience on keto:
-Did you ever carb up (CKD or TKD)? Was it a whole day/weekend/just one meal?
-You say you are building muscle, do you use a TKD (workout nutrition) approach or not?
I ask because I just got off a CKD. Although I was fat-adapted, at the end I started to feel like I was losing my edge…tired all the time, not focused, etc. I had to quit early. It worked well for a month. I did go from “somewhere” around 25 percent to around 15 percent BF.
(Sorry for the hijack) Take care folks.[/quote]
I have read all of Lyle’s books and at first (about 18 mts ago) I thought a carb up/ refeed was needed too. I did experiment with a day of high carb and felt absolutely awful. Couldn’t imagine doing a weekend. I found no improvement and stopped soon after.
I think “proper” fat adaption comes after being keto adapted on a high fat diet for quite some time. I think this can be upset with high carb input. Mind you I’m not talking about small amounts of green veg now and again. I have never experienced tiredness but a spoonful or two of coconut oil would do the trick. That and I hit the BCAA/EAA before during and after training, (always fasted). This is just my experience and YMMV.
Thanks for the question.