Biotest

Carbolin 19 + HOT-ROX Extreme?


#1

I am beginning a cutting phase and I was thinking of stacking Carbolin 19 + HOT-ROX. But HOT-ROX has Carbolin 19 already.Does HOT-ROX have enough Carbolin 19? or should I take 1 capsule of Carbolin 19 with 2 capsules of HOT-ROX?


#2

Yes, <a href="http://www.t-nation.com/store/products/hot-rox-extreme"target=“new”>HOT-ROX Extreme already contains Carbolin-19. A better strategy might be to use HOT-ROX for a cycle (at least one month) and when you cycle off HOT-ROX use <a href="http://www.t-nation.com/store/products/carbolin-19"target=“new”>Carbolin 19. In other words, alternate supplements.

Many Biotest users add <a href="http://www.t-nation.com/store/products/seven"target=“new”>Se7en to HOT-ROX for its muscle hardening effects. Although Se7en is geared toward female users, it works well for men as part of a fat-loss stack.


#3

OP, I am one who can’t tolerate 2 caps of HOT-ROX at one time; it’s the caffeine.

BUT, I can take 1 cap without too much jitters…and I have found myself recently taking a cap of Carbolin 19 with it. It’s too early yet to see if what effects this pattern of dosing will do for me, but I’ll be doing this for about 3 months.

What I find amazing about HOT-ROX is the mood effect it has on me. I have been avoiding HOT-ROX for years due to me trying to stay away from all stimulants, but have decided to try it again to see just how cut up I can get. The very 1st thing I’ve noticed is the good mood I get in. I distinctly remember HOT-ROX always putting me in a good mood when I used it, and am puzzled about why I strayed away from its use for so long.

Actually, I know why. I replaced regular use of HOT-ROX with Rhodiola as I felt I got similar (but not the same) “mood” effects. I also began experimenting with alot of nootropics that also was supposed to enhance good mood in addition to other mental effects…all without the stimulants found in HOT-ROX. Remember, I wanted to get totally away from stimulants period.

Well, for me, these “stimulants” appear to give me a far better mood effect than any of the nootropics I have used (and am still using). One cap of HOT-ROX seems to do the trick for me. I don’t think the fat burning potential of HOT-ROX is really realized with only a cap a day, but I’m going to see if it does “something”.


#4

buffd this is funny,HOT-ROX puts me in a great mood as well.Like yourself i haven’t had it in a long time and just a couple of day’s ago i had one cap and forgot how great my mood is on this stuff haha.I just wanted a little pick me up cause of the lack of sleep and now i remember how much this stuff has an effect on my mood.


#5

Carbolin 19 does have a mood-lifting and/or mental stimulant effect for many.

Forskolin itself is also known to have this effect, but the carbonate ester form (Carbolin 19) appears much more effective at it.


#6

Bill, methinks there is something else in HOT-ROX that gives me the particular mood enhancement; I’ve been taking Carbolin-19 since its re-introduction and it doesn’t give me the lift in mood that a single HOT-ROX cap did (I was doing two caps a day of Carbolin-19, once a day). Perhaps the combo of Carbolin-19 and some other ingredient is the key however.

And it isn’t the caffeine. With just one cap, I could already feel that irritating jitter that caffeine always gives me. For some, caffeine helps them focus better…the total complete opposite occurs for me I’m afraid.

On the other hand, I remember an ingredient Biotest used to include in their formulas, Sclaremax, that gave me a significant boost in mood…very similar to what HOT-ROX did. Carbolin-19 is supposed to do what Sclaremax did, but better…but I think Sclaremax does a little extra with regards to effecting my mood.

Whatever the reason, I am loving this stuff (HOT-ROX)…again.

Oh, and ALWAYS a pleasure when YOU chime in on any topic. Much respect.


#7

[quote]jppage wrote:
buffd this is funny,HOT-ROX puts me in a great mood as well.Like yourself i haven’t had it in a long time and just a couple of day’s ago i had one cap and forgot how great my mood is on this stuff haha.I just wanted a little pick me up cause of the lack of sleep and now i remember how much this stuff has an effect on my mood.[/quote]

It’s pretty awesome isn’t it. :slight_smile:
Again, I can’t believe we stopped using it!


#8

Buffd, it’s very likely the raspberry ketones in <a href="http://www.t-nation.com/store/products/hot-rox-extreme"target=“new”>HOT-ROX Extreme responsible for the mood boost.

In fact, we’ve heard from a few blushing females that HOT-ROX boosts one particular variety of “mood” for them. (Bonus!)


#9

HOT-ROX is probably the best mood enhancer I’ve ever experienced.

My preferred way is to stack it with a double-dose of Se7en. Holy man, that works well!


#10

[quote]Bryan Krahn wrote:
HOT-ROX is probably the best mood enhancer I’ve ever experienced.

My preferred way is to stack it with a double-dose of Se7en. Holy man, that works well![/quote]

What did you experience with that protocol?


#11

I at first couldn’t take two HOT-ROX at a time. I took 1 pill twice a day for a week. Then added a 2 pill dose once a day.now im up to two a day, With all things your body will build a tolerance.