Biotest

Biotest Supps Banned by INBF?


#1

I’m looking to enter my first showing in a Natural Physique competition in 9 weeks and I’m ready to take some supplements to help me out. I’ve seen INBF has a long list of banned substances, last I heard it included HOT-ROX. This doesn’t make sense to me, but I don’t want to risk failing the drug test due to not knowing or assuming I’m safe.

I’ve trained for 15 plus yrs, weighing 174 about 10%bf, wanting to get to 165, lean and muscular. I’ve been taking Creatine(which I just dropped this week), fish oil, BCAAs, Vitamin D, Glucosamine…pretty much some basic stuff. I’ve been a big coffee drinker but dropped that 6 weeks ago, along with any pre-workout…just to reset my system and tolerancy to caffeine and stimulants, but I’m ready to add some back.

Any insights as to what is banned or not?


HOT-ROX and Testing
#2

There are too many organizations for us to keep up with. You’ll just have to check the ingredients and the lists. We don’t see why HOT-ROX would be banned unless they have a rule against yohimbine or think it contains ephedrine (it does not.) And honestly, as far as we know, you can’t actually test for many of the things they say you can’t take. Unless a lie detector gets you. But this is a very gray area of physique competitions.

But we’d suggest things like <a href="http://www.t-nation.com/store/products/indigo-3g"target=“new”>Indigo-3G, <a href="http://www.t-nation.com/store/products/carbolin-19"target=“new”>Carbolin 19 and <a href="http://www.t-nation.com/store/products/micro-pa"target=“new”>Micro-PA. Very powerful, and most are too new to show up on a banned list even if there was a reason to put them there (and there’s not.) We have several lifetime natural physique competitors using all of these. And of course, there’s no problem with any of our workout nutrition products like Plazma.


#3

[quote]yodaddy wrote:
I’m looking to enter my first showing in a Natural Physique competition in 9 weeks and I’m ready to take some supplements to help me out. I’ve seen INBF has a long list of banned substances, last I heard it included HOT-ROX. This doesn’t make sense to me, but I don’t want to risk failing the drug test due to not knowing or assuming I’m safe.

I’ve trained for 15 plus yrs, weighing 174 about 10%bf, wanting to get to 165, lean and muscular. I’ve been taking Creatine(which I just dropped this week), fish oil, BCAAs, Vitamin D, Glucosamine…pretty much some basic stuff. I’ve been a big coffee drinker but dropped that 6 weeks ago, along with any pre-workout…just to reset my system and tolerancy to caffeine and stimulants, but I’m ready to add some back.

Any insights as to what is banned or not?
[/quote]

Heard from whom?

There list is posted on their website and I helped a friend last year go thru the list.

They are looking mostly at illegal drugs, the “hormone” family, ephedrine, prescription diuretics, etc.


#4

[quote]JFG wrote:

[quote]yodaddy wrote:
I’m looking to enter my first showing in a Natural Physique competition in 9 weeks and I’m ready to take some supplements to help me out. I’ve seen INBF has a long list of banned substances, last I heard it included HOT-ROX. This doesn’t make sense to me, but I don’t want to risk failing the drug test due to not knowing or assuming I’m safe.

I’ve trained for 15 plus yrs, weighing 174 about 10%bf, wanting to get to 165, lean and muscular. I’ve been taking Creatine(which I just dropped this week), fish oil, BCAAs, Vitamin D, Glucosamine…pretty much some basic stuff. I’ve been a big coffee drinker but dropped that 6 weeks ago, along with any pre-workout…just to reset my system and tolerancy to caffeine and stimulants, but I’m ready to add some back.

Any insights as to what is banned or not?
[/quote]

Heard from whom?

There list is posted on their website and I helped a friend last year go thru the list.

They are looking mostly at illegal drugs, the “hormone” family, ephedrine, prescription diuretics, etc. [/quote]

Actually a few threads here on T-Nation.

I guess my best bet is to go through the list and compare to every single ingredient in each supplement I look at.


#5

[quote]Chris Shugart wrote:
There are too many organizations for us to keep up with. You’ll just have to check the ingredients and the lists. We don’t see why HOT-ROX would be banned unless they have a rule against yohimbine or think it contains ephedrine (it does not.) And honestly, as far as we know, you can’t actually test for many of the things they say you can’t take. Unless a lie detector gets you. But this is a very gray area of physique competitions.

But we’d suggest things like <a href="http://www.T-Nation.com/store/products/indigo-3g"target=“new”>Indigo-3G, <a href="http://www.T-Nation.com/store/products/Carbolin 19-19"target=“new”>Carbolin 19 and <a href="http://www.T-Nation.com/store/products/micro-pa"target=“new”>Micro-PA. Very powerful, and most are too new to show up on a banned list even if there was a reason to put them there (and there’s not.) We have several lifetime natural physique competitors using all of these. And of course, there’s no problem with any of our workout nutrition products like Plazma. [/quote]

Thanks for the info Chris. I think I’ll look into Indigo-3G.