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Biotest on a Budget - College Edition


#1

NOTE: Long post. TL;DR; at bottom

Hi there,

I’m currently in college and looking to spark my workouts by adding Biotest products, which is great.

Bad news: I’m a college student and live on a college budget, which means that I’m not able to shell out $70 every 2 weeks for Plazma, MAG-10, Indigo-3G, or Micro-PA.

What I’m going to do in this thread is outline my entire diet/workout/life plan and I’d like to get recommendations for the best options for my life / budget.

Workout Plan:
I’m currently following Thib’s Growth Factor Training, my split is as follows:
Monday: https://www.T-Nation.com/training/growth-factor-shoulder-training
Tuesday: http://tnation.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding_thibaudeau/gtrowth_factor_back_workout
Wednesday: https://www.T-Nation.com/training/growth-factor-chest-training
Thursday: Heavy Squats + http://tnation.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding_thibaudeau/growth_factor_for_legs (note: workout plan is a few posts down)
Friday: http://tnation.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding_thibaudeau/update_to_growth_factor_shoulder_training_width_complexes
Saturday: Arms (no set workout plan, similar idea as other GF templates)
Sunday: Rest

Diet:
Diet consists of 5 meals spread out every 3 hours totalling:
2700 cal
79 fat
225 carb
290 pro

My diet plan was given to me by a personal trainer specializing in diet plans and bodybuilding. I have absolute faith in him that this plan is perfect for me, and I have been dropping quality weight over the past 2 months that I have been on it.

Supps:
Throughout the day, 5 and 1/2 scoops of Whey

Pre & Peri-workout:
5g L-Glutamine
2 scoops Dextrose

I put the 2 scoops and fill up with 600ml water. I immediately drink half of it, and then fill the cup back up and sip the rest of the drink throughout my workout. I’m pretty good at finishing the drink right as my workout ends.

Post-workout
5g L-Glutamine
2 scoops of Whey (40g protein)
40 Haribo Gold Bears (which equals about 75 carb)

So that’s it. Basically 5g BCAA + 5g L-Glutamine pre and post, dextrose pre & peri, protein powder post.

Pictures:
http://prntscr.com/87fezn 6’2" 188-190 at ~12.5% BF

Conclusion / TL;DR;
6’2" 190ish ~12.5% BF and broke. CT’s Growth factor training. Need to figure out which supplements would be best for less than $80-100 a month.

Thanks!


#2

Surge Workout Fuel. Not as good as Plazma for lifting, but packs a fucking punch nonetheless. I started with SWF and noticed a huge difference. When I moved to Plazma I noticed an even bigger difference but Surge still rocks and I still use it depending on budget/goals. The one thing SWF has that Plazma doesn’t are a few key endurance-boosting ingredients, not that you necessarily need that on your training plan.


#3

[quote]shralpinist wrote:
Surge Workout Fuel. Not as good as Plazma for lifting, but packs a fucking punch nonetheless. I started with SWF and noticed a huge difference. When I moved to Plazma I noticed an even bigger difference but Surge still rocks and I still use it depending on budget/goals. The one thing SWF has that Plazma doesn’t are a few key endurance-boosting ingredients, not that you necessarily need that on your training plan.[/quote]

I agree, Surge Workout Fuel is really good. As a matter of fact try the Finibars a well. (Personally I’m addicted to them). But I’m thinking from a budgetary perspective eat half before and half after training. SWF pre/intra/post


#4

TL;DR reply - The guys are right, Surge Workout Fuel is the best choice for you.

[quote]BryanParmenter wrote:
I’m currently following Thib’s Growth Factor Training, my split is as follows:
Monday: [GF Shoulder]
Tuesday: [GF Back]
Wednesday: [GF Chest]
Thursday: Heavy Squats + [GF Legs]
Friday: [GF Shoulder Width]
Saturday: Arms (no set workout plan, similar idea as other GF templates)
Sunday: Rest[/quote]
I’m not 100% familiar with the Growth Factor approach, but has Thib ever said you’re “supposed to” run all five plus an arms version at the same time? That would kinda defeat the purpose of a specialization plan.

[quote]Diet:
Diet consists of 5 meals spread out every 3 hours totalling:
[…]
290 pro
[…]
Throughout the day, 5 and 1/2 scoops of Whey[/quote]
Is that whey already calculated into that 290g or are you taking in like 400g protein total? Not trying to contradict your trainer, just trying to figure out why you couldn’t save on the protein powder and use more whole foods.

[quote]Pre & Peri-workout:
5g L-Glutamine
2 scoops Dextrose
[…]
Post-workout
5g L-Glutamine
2 scoops of Whey (40g protein)
40 Haribo Gold Bears (which equals about 75 carb)[/quote]
If your pre and peri nutrition is on point, post-workout is a much lesser priority. And glutamine + dextrose is very not my definition of ‘on point’.

Where’d the BCAA’s pre come from? Anyhow, ditch the glutamine. It’s highly-debated, at best, and will save a bit from your supplement budget right there.

Top Priority: Surge Workout Fuel, one serving for pre and peri-workout. The best budget-friendly workout shake. Shrapnelist mentioned some of the endurance-boosting ingredients, like beta-alanine, but those might actually be useful since you’re doing a ton of work with complexes/supersets.

Next Step: Mag-10 once during the day. Many people like it either very first thing in the morning or last thing at night, but whenever is fine. At 6-7 servings a week, one bottle should last you just about four weeks. If you could squeeze in an extra serving post-workout (after the hardest session of the week) as a nutritional reinforcement and recovery boost, even better.

The protein in Mag-10 is absorbed much more efficiently, so it’s generally considered that one serving is roughly equivalent to 100g of other protein. Which basically means you can scale back on your constant whey, which saves you even more from what you’re currently spending on supps.


#5

Everything I’ve read just says to space certain workouts farther apart (Shoulders and Chest, for example, because they both hit the anterior delts pretty hard). But I’m moving to a new plan soon, so this isn’t much to worry about.

Whey is included in that. 400g of protein would be a lot of stuff in one day.

I originally had BCAA’s up there but they must have been removed by the content editor. I had links to all of the specific products that I used, and those were removed pre-publishing, so they might have dropped the BCAA’s by accident.

[quote]Top Priority: Surge Workout Fuel, one serving for pre and peri-workout. The best budget-friendly workout shake. Shrapnelist mentioned some of the endurance-boosting ingredients, like beta-alanine, but those might actually be useful since you’re doing a ton of work with complexes/supersets.
https://Biotest.T-Nation.com/...ge-workout-fuel

Next Step: MAG-10 once during the day. Many people like it either very first thing in the morning or last thing at night, but whenever is fine. At 6-7 servings a week, one bottle should last you just about four weeks. If you could squeeze in an extra serving post-workout (after the hardest session of the week) as a nutritional reinforcement and recovery boost, even better.
https://Biotest.T-Nation.com/...products/MAG-10

The protein in MAG-10 is absorbed much more efficiently, so it’s generally considered that one serving is roughly equivalent to 100g of other protein. Which basically means you can scale back on your constant whey, which saves you even more from what you’re currently spending on supps.
http://tnation.T-Nation.com/.../mag10_and_whey [/quote]

It looks like SWF is the way to go. If I can save more on other supps I’ll try to add in MAG-10.

But SWF is probably going to be about ~$60 a month, which isn’t bad. It looks like I’ll be picking that up pretty soon.

Thanks for your help everybody!


#6

I would drop all the other supps in favour of MAG-10 - just take 1 serving postworkout and should last a month. Maybe add a tiny bi tto workout water bottle also. -At your age will allow you to nuke your body in the gym and come back for more the next day.

Apart from that get all the rest of your protein from whole foods especially beef