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Beverages on V-Diet?

[quote]Chris Shugart wrote:
Water is best. Tea and coffee is fine, but beware:

  1. caffeine (HOT-ROX already has stimulatory properties) and…

  2. added sugar, creamer, etc.

And for gosh sakes don’t turn “Chris said I could have coffee” into 900 calorie coffee drinks at Starbucks! [smiley face here]

I suggest mint green tea with a touch of Splenda.

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If Shugart thought is was fine and dandy to have diet soda, he would have wrote that into the program. He even would have addressed the OP’s question. He did not though.

Come on guys. This is getting retarded.

May I cite Shugart from Gus PC:
“A cup of coffee or green tea with Splenda is fine, as is a diet soda a day or so, but ideally water only.”

[quote]pete914 wrote:
Except that Shugs himself wrote the diet with an additional cup of coffee per day. There is not that much caffeine in a regular diet beverage relative to a cup of coffee. Face it, having one a day doesn’t even qualify as a diet modification.[/quote]

What happens when one becomes ten? IMO, the first time around you should be as strict as possible. That way you get some idea of how to adapt the next time. Provided you don’t fail.

Is anyone else having a hard time concentrating on these threads with that photo of Jamie Eason in the right margin of every thread? Teh Hotness!

/threadjack

i have whatever drink says zero calories and carbs=mostly teas. since i’m in nyc, there’s a huge selection of diet green teas and even unsweetened straight up just plain green tea in a bottle. i don’t do diet soda because it makes me feel super bloated. i think as long as you are consuming a good amount of water and not going crazy then it should be fine. makavali makes a good point though.

[quote]Makavali wrote:
pete914 wrote:
Except that Shugs himself wrote the diet with an additional cup of coffee per day. There is not that much caffeine in a regular diet beverage relative to a cup of coffee. Face it, having one a day doesn’t even qualify as a diet modification.

What happens when one becomes ten? IMO, the first time around you should be as strict as possible. That way you get some idea of how to adapt the next time. Provided you don’t fail.[/quote]

If you can’t prevent one from becoming ten, you’re not going to make it on this diet anyways. Or any other diet for that matter. Come on guys, this diet isn’t a magical potion that becomes rancid at the addition of a FREAKING DIET SODA.

I understand the “make as few (none) changes as possible” position, but there is no logic supporting the banning of a diet soda. Okay, if additional caffeine is a problem for you, have a caffeine free beverage. The shakes are already loaded with artificial sweeteners, acting like a little more will result in disaster is absurd.

Make all the changes you want then, just don’t be calling it the Velocity Diet. If you’re so weak that you can’t go 28 days without a drink, is this diet for you?

What you can and can’t do is listed for you in the sticky.

http://www.T-Nation.com/tmagnum/readTopic.do?id=2125931

[quote]Makavali wrote:
Make all the changes you want then, just don’t be calling it the Velocity Diet. If you’re so weak that you can’t go 28 days without a drink, is this diet for you?

What you can and can’t do is listed for you in the sticky.

http://www.T-Nation.com/tmagnum/readTopic.do?id=2125931 [/quote]

I’m starting to think that Makavali has less than stellar debating skills.

You’re not giving a reason why diet sodas are diet-wrecking. I just want a reason, not an attack on my strength because I asked the question.

I don’t just accept things without question - especially on a website for a supplement company. Yes, I want to succeed. No, I’m not in the military. Hence, if you think it’s a bad idea, TELL ME WHY.

Beverages aren’t really addressed in the sticky.

Like I already said - make whatever changes you want. We both know those “diet” sodas are no good for you, but whatever. Go for it.

Here are some links for people that might actually listen.

http://www.usaweekend.com/05_issues/050724/050724healthsmart.html

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/OnCall/story?id=4271246

http://www.emaxhealth.com/11/586.html

http://www.rakemag.com/blogs/beyond-cask/2008/02/diet-coke-will-make-you-fat-other-hard-truths

www.mattfurey.com/diet_soda_fat070105.html

[quote]wirewound wrote:
especially on a website for a supplement company.[/quote]

Then it’s probably not a good idea to ask on a forum run by said company, no?

Now think about what happens when you add additional artificial sweeteners to a diet already high in them?

Like I said, drink what you what. Apparently 28 days is too long to go without coke.

[quote]Chris Shugart wrote:
Water is best. Tea and coffee is fine, but beware:

  1. caffeine (HOT-ROX already has stimulatory properties) and…

  2. added sugar, creamer, etc.

And for gosh sakes don’t turn “Chris said I could have coffee” into 900 calorie coffee drinks at Starbucks! [smiley face here]

I suggest mint green tea with a touch of Splenda.[/quote]

Just in case you missed it.

[quote]Makavali wrote:

Like I already said - make whatever changes you want. We both know those “diet” sodas are no good for you, but whatever. Go for it.

Here are some links for people that might actually listen.

http://www.usaweekend.com/05_issues/050724/050724healthsmart.html

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/OnCall/story?id=4271246

http://www.emaxhealth.com/11/586.html

http://www.rakemag.com/blogs/beyond-cask/2008/02/diet-coke-will-make-you-fat-other-hard-truths

www.mattfurey.com/diet_soda_fat070105.html[/quote]

If you really believe all that shit, you would never touch a low carb protein shake. Let alone 5+ a day.

[quote]lowlight wrote:
If you really believe all that shit, you would never touch a low carb protein shake. Let alone 5+ a day.[/quote]

Did 6 a day for my V-Diet. Worked out fine. My point was do you really want to add more artificial sweeter into your diet?

And for those who keep badgering me. For fucks sake, I only offered the advice that you don’t drink anything outside of water, if you want to drink a fucking ‘diet’ soda, then go ahead and do it. I’m not stopping you.

Idiots.

[quote]Makavali wrote:
And for those who keep badgering me. For fucks sake, I only offered the advice that you don’t drink anything outside of water, if you want to drink a fucking ‘diet’ soda, then go ahead and do it. I’m not stopping you.

Idiots.[/quote]

How old are you, man? Who posts like this?

[quote]wirewound wrote:
How old are you, man? Who posts like this?[/quote]

I post like that. Get over it. If you want your soda, have it.

A clear sign of someone who knows they’re wrong, but are too hardheaded to accept the fact and just stfu about it. I used to do that a lot when I first started posting on internet forums about 10 years ago.

[quote]Makavali wrote:
wirewound wrote:
How old are you, man? Who posts like this?

I post like that. Get over it. If you want your soda, have it.[/quote]

Whats wrong?

Must be that time of the month…

Lol. I’m glad someone finally told Makavali, same thing happened when I asked him why I had to only use Metabolic Drive, no reasons, just bashing and being told that I’ll fail if I don’t. And thankfully someone with smarts came along and gave me the science behind the matter, which worked and made me change my mind.

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